If you are in the mood for some bank bashing, check out this wikipedia link. This page lists a few atrocities committed by ICICI bank in India while trying to recover loans.
And yeah, ICICI bank is not a local operation fronted by thugs but is India’s largest private sector bank and its ADRs are listed in NYSE .
Are the allegations about the bank true?
Some may not be true. But a majority are and such behavior even led to the bank being fined 5 million INR by the Delhi Consumer Commission.
Is this the general state of debt recovery in India?
Yes. Banks routinely employ collection agencies and outsource debt recovery to them. There is no supervision or formal processes involved and the agencies operate on a commision based on the amount recovered.
Since the agencies are interested only in maximizing their commission, they routinely take shortcuts by employing thugs who take to beating up borrowers.
Was this the case in India always? Are all the banks involved in this type of behavior?
A short history lesson…
The largest 14 banks in India were nationalized in the 1960s and the general behavior of banks then was to classify unrecoverable loans as NPAs (Non Performing Assets). Of course, this led to banks with huge bad debts in their balance sheets and the system was a mess.
When India started liberalizing in the 1990s, many private banking licenses were granted – ICICI bank was one among them. These banks learnt quite a few lessons from the experiences of the nationalized banks and from the Indian financial environment:
The funny thing – only private banks (Citibank, Amex, Standard Chartered, HSBC…) seem to be involved in such sordid stories. When banks were nationalized, you had more stories of bankers being beaten up for trying to collect loans!!!
Guess this is the revenge of the bankers…
Final Note:
The purpose of this post is three fold:
Q: When is 15% savings not enough to retire?
A: When you are a woman.
Consider this:
As a woman, you are more likely to
So the next time you look at an online retirement savings calculator that says you should save 15% if you are below 30 years of age, please ADD ATLEAST 1% MORE for each of the points above that apply to you. Since 2 & 3 apply to nearly all women, you should be looking to save at least 17% of pre-tax income.
Then we come to the other half of retirement savings – investment. Most women have one or both of these two problems while investing:
If you are currently not investing in stocks either because you do not understand them or because you are afraid, ADD ANOTHER 1%. Then sit down and start educating yourself on investing for the long-term!!
And the proof that you need to save more is right here:
Google search of “savings women” – check out how the first article is for women to save more. Of the top 10 links, 6 are exhorting women to save more. And “Did you mean to search for” shows a very helpful “savings when“. And the kicker – 4 links are advertising products. Now when does shopping for stuff help you save money? The answer: NEVER.
Google search of “savings men” - the first article is about shopping. Of the top 10 search results, 3 again talk about how women trail men in savings.
The bottomline: Everyone agrees that women need to save more than they currently are and learn about investing for the long-term. And help is right here for you to start
I came across this essay titled “Democracy in Corporate America” by John Bogle while blog hopping. In this essay, Bogle puts across the following points:
And this is the state in one of the most developed countries in the world !!
This got me thinking about the situation in India, especially about the big soap opera that the Reliance split was. For the uninitiated, Reliance industries is a Fortune 500 company and is also India’s largest private sector company. It was started by Dhirubhai Ambani and his two sons, Mukesh and Anil, inherited it. Sibling rivalry led to the split of the company into two in 2005 and this deal was brokered by their mother, Kokilaben.
And the best thing about this – everyone, and I mean EVERYONE, went along with this. There was no noise from shareholders about this issue. The split ended up giving all energy related businesses to Mukesh and financial/telecom businesses to Anil.
The problem: Mukesh was the telecom visionary but his long term strategies were now lost to that business.
Since this was a huge conglomerate and had been split into two, there was a major unlocking of value and the stock price shot up for both companies. That made the average stock holder who preferred short term gains over long term strength happy. And it sickened long term investors like me who now have to study two separate companies while making investment decisions
I have now realized that making companies accountable is a problem everywhere in the world and it also tough to get governments to help out with this issue. Being a shareholder in both India and USA, hopefully I can help educate investors in both countries about this problem.
Once I decided to take control of my finances, the easiest way for me to track accounts, manage expenses and calculate networth was to use personal finance software. I will be reviewing some popular and not so popular money management products that I have used.
In each review, I will also be rating the software on some parameters that are important for me:
a) Price (Free/Ouch) – I prefer free software. Yes, this means losing out on good systems like Quicken and Microsoft Money. It also means that the replacements may sometimes not be fully featured and may lack customer support. An open source alternative like GnuCash does not have a 1-800 number you can call for questions. However, the price makes it perfect for me and I do not mind haunting support forums and googling for answers.
b) Platform (Online/Desktop) – I am still ambiguous as to which platform i prefer. Any decision will be based on
c) Budgeting (Yes/No) – I do not budget to the last dollar. What I have are spending categories and I know how much i generally spend in each category. Some like rent are constant and I don’t track them each month. However, i track my groceries a lot as the amount can vary wildly from month to month, depending on whether i have a carbohydrate craving or have jumped on the eat natural bandwagon. Any software i look at should allow me to set up my own spending categories. Mint has finally added the budget feature and is now in my list of software to try out.
d) Complete Picture - If I am a starving college student, the total of my bank balances would be enough for me. All I would need to know : You have less than 5$ in the bank – so DO NOT buy that latte. Now that I have 401K, Roth IRA and investment accounts spread across two continents, any number shown to me must include the latest information on all these accounts. And yeah, that number needs to be displayed in atleast 2 currencies
Most of the products out there work well for investments in USA but suffer if you get out of the country.
e) Fancy Schmanzy – This is all those graphs and charts which should always show that my networth is increasing and I have no debt (crossing fingers
) . Achieving this in a home grown system is not impossible but I have realized that I will never know all the features of Microsoft Excel and in fact, do not want to. So pictures are in and any software that can do that with my numbers gets a vote.
f) Setup / Maintenance Time – Since I need to work on this blog (a lot !), software that has a great degree of automation built in helps. Setup time needs to be low. I need software to automatically connect to my accounts, download information and refresh all my balances. My maintenance activities should be restricted to looking at reports and updating my budgets.
Finally, these are the things i can live without in my software:
For the uninitiated, NRI is a Non Resident Indian.
There is your dollar, sitting in
As you track the consistent fall in the greenback’s value and wonder whether something can be done, look no further than the home country.
The simple math: Savings accounts in the US are currently yielding around 5% annually. In India, you can get 6.5% for the same money.
Consider this scenario – you want to buy a home and would like to save around 10 lakhs in two years. If you send the money to your recurring deposit account in an Indian bank @ 1000 dollars a month, you will have 996,688 rupees after year 2. Holding the amount in dollars will net you 26,290. At the current exchange rate of 39$, you will fall short by 15000 rupees.
Of course, this assumes that the exchange rate will stay closer to 40.
Here’s a probably stupid and I hope to be proved wrong prediction: I think the rate will go down all the way to 35 Rs for each dollar. This would mean converting at the end of year 2 leaves you with a shortfall of 115,181 rupees.
My 2 cents – if you plan to use the money in India within the next 2 years, it is better to have your savings in rupees.
Yes, this is yet another personal finance blog. So why should you include this in your reading list?
A few reasons why this blog may help you:
Mostly, with this blog, I will not be addressing issues like “ohmigod, i have credit card debt because i spent and spent and do not know what to do”. I hold “Spending less than you make” and “Pay yourself first” as self-evident truths and will try to go beyond them.
Here’s hoping you have as much fun as I am going to
Cheers,
zzz